Saturday, June 06, 2009

The Lost Rewatch: 1x04 "Walkabout"

It's hard to top "Walkabout," which is still on top of many fans' favorites lists, even after all this time. It was the very first (and perhaps best) Locke-centric episode, and the fourth episode of the series overall. So let's begin, shall we?

"Walkabout" begins with the opening eye of John Locke. It's the first time since Jack's eye in the first episode that an eye has opened an episode. This time, it's the green eye of Locke. It's a flashback to the crash. He's unconscious on the beach, surrounded in debris from the plane. Locke looks down at his moving toe, and is shocked. Of course, we now know that he was shocked that he could even move his foot at all after that little push that his dad gave him four years before. He sees a shoe next to him, and he picks it up.

A barking dog leads us out of the flashback and to a closeup of Locke's face. Vincent is barking in the background, and we see that he's running toward the fuselage, where there is a rustling and growling. The survivors quickly deduce that there's someone in the fuselage. Jack immediately suspects Sawyer, but Sawyer is "right behind ya, jackass." Either Jack didn't hear the growling, or he took Sawyer literally in "Tabula Rasa" when he said he was "in the wild." Pulling out his pocket flashlight, Jack goes to investigate. Sawyer follows, holding a much larger flashlight. They slowly walk into the fuselage, and see the outline of something hairy. Sawyer decides to "shed some light on this thing" by shining his huge flashlight at the creature, but it's a boar. It charges. Or rather, three of them charge. The beach erupts into chaos as everyone tries to get away from the charging creatures, but they simply run off into the woods. Locke recognizes that they are boars, and then gives that mischevous smile.

After the Lost intertitle, Jack cleans Charlie's wound, and thinks that they need to burn the bodies to keep them from being eaten. Sayid thinks that they deserve better, but Jack insists that any bodies they bury would not stay buried for very long. Locke will repeat this sentiment to Paulo in "Expose" ("nothing stays buried on this Island"). Which is funny, considering the creation of Boone hill (the cemetery) later on in the series. Sayid is still skeptical, asking Jack to consider people's religions, but Jack says they don't have time. Jack intends to light the fuselage on fire the following night, so that people will see it.

The next day, Sayid works on building an antenna, so that he can find out where the signal is coming from. Michael and Walt are gathering firewood, and Michael notices Locke looking into a box. He decides not to let Walt go see Locke. Meanwhile, Hurley is fighting Sawyer for the peanuts, because there is no food left. Sayid says that there are plenty of food sources on the Island. Sawyer asks how they can find sustenance, and Locke throws a knife into the seat beside him. "We hunt," he says as the theme "Crocodile Locke" plays. Locke says that he checked the knife onto the plane. Jack introduces himself to Locke, and Michael looks on with loathing. Locke explains that they'll be hunting boar, and describes how he's going to kill the boar (leading Sawyer to ask Jack why he gave Locke his knife back). Locke then opens his case and reveals that it's actually filled with knives (for his walkabout that he attempted to go on).

As Hurley asks who this guy is, we get a flashback. Locke's working in a cubicle (the episode was originally titled "Lord of the Files"), when he gets a call. The man on the other end, calling him Colonel Locke, asks if the line is secure. Locke is then harassed by Randy, who we later find out was also Hurley's boss at Mr. Clucks before beginning to work at a box company. Later, Randy would work at a "Circuit House" electronics store, and would film Hurley's car crash in "The Beginning of the End." Locke continues working, and the calculator he uses prints out a reciept with a monster-like sound.

Jack is skeptical of Locke, something that will continue until after Locke's death. Kate's going with Locke because she has Sayid's transciever, and Kate says that she's a vegetarian. Claire approaches Jack and asks if they should do a memorial service, but Jack doesn't want to lead it. Boone notices Rose sitting down the beach in her vigil for Bernard. He mentions it to Shannon, and the conversation moves to Shannon finding food, and she insists that she can catch a fish. She cons Charlie into fishing for her. Somene uses Locke's wheelchair to carry wood while Boone goes up to Jack to ask him to talk to Rose. Jack does, bringing her some water. She doesn't talk, but he sits with her for a while.

Meanwhile, Locke, Kate, and Michael hear a boar. The boar tackles Michael after he doesn't keep quiet, and it cuts his leg. In a flashback, Locke is playing a Risk-like game, while he is harassed by Randy about taking a walkabout. Randy tells Locke that he can't do any of that, but Locke says that it's his "destiny," a phrase that he'll use many times later. "Don't tell me what I can't do," he says. Back on the Island, Locke continues after the boar on his on while Kate takes Michael back to the beach.

Hurley and Charlie fish, the beginning of a beautiful friendship. Claire, meanwhile, gives Sayid an envelope containing pictures of Nadia. Sayid will eventually find Nadia once off the Island, only to have her be run down by a car while he helped Jacob "find" directions. Rose breaks her silence to Jack, telling him she's letting him off the hook, a line that will be repeated by Boone before his death. Rose tells Jack that he has a "good" soul.

In a flashback, Locke sits on his bed talking to a phone operator named Helen. It's unknown why she's named Helen, like his old girlfriend Helen Norwood, but it's likely that he asked her to use that name. He tells her about his personal goals, and invites her to come along with him on the walkabout. She refuses, because he's a customer, hanging up on him. If you'll notice during this scene, Locke's wheelchair is nowhere around the bed, presumably to keep the twist secret.

Kate climbs a tree to boost the transciever signal, but the monster approaches, causing her to drop it. She worries about Locke, who suddenly is approached by the monster, which rises above him. He looks at it with a look of wonder. Did the monster judge him like it did Eko? Or, due to Locke claiming that she did not see black smoke, did he see something else entirely?

Kate and Michael return to the beach, but without Locke. Charlie realizes he's been conned by Shannon. Jack tries to get Rose to return to the funeral service to say words about Bernard, but Rose does not believe Bernard is dead, which is stunningly correct. Jack says that everyone in the tail section is gone, and Rose insists that "they're probably thinking the same thing about us." Jack, at a loss for words, looks out into the jungle and sees his father standing there. Now, this raises some interesting questions. Of course we know that it's not a hallucination, and that his father's actually there, but is this Jacob's nemesis? I think so. Jack sees Christian again, but he's gone just as quickly as he appeared. Jack follows Christian into the jungle, but instead sees Locke dragging a boar to the beach. He survived.

At the funeral, Claire reads out the names of the deceased. Jack sits down the beach, trying to figure out what he just saw. Michael congratulates Locke about the boar. He asks Locke if he saw anything, but Locke denies it, even though we know he did.

In a flashback, Locke is denied a walkabout because of his paralysis, and we see that Locke's in a wheelchair, a result of being pushed out a window by his con-man father. Locke's able to "walk about" on the Island, leading us to wonder how exactly this was possible. Was it the Island's electromagnetism that conveys the healing properties? Regardless of what it was, Locke is able to walk, and he sees it as a new beginning as he watches the wheelchair in the fire.

And thus the episode ends. It's been consistently heralded as one of the greatest of the series, and it really is one of the best. It's a brilliant introduction into the character of Locke, and we'll get another flashback from him in "Deus Ex Machina."

Now for something completely unrelated -- next week's Lostpedia blogs will not be done by me -- I'm going on summer vacation for the greater part of the week. The rewatch will be covered by another administrator. I should be back week after next to go through "Solitary," "Raised By Another," "All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues," and "Whatever the Case May Be" with you guys. I will watch next week's episodes, though, so when I return I'll discuss them along with everyone else in the forums.

Until then, thank you, namaste, and good luck.

41 comments:

  1. On the ReWatch forums for Walkabout someone suggested that when Locke calls his phone-lady "Helen" he's doing the same thing that he did on the island, calling Kate "Helen" as well. Personally, I think this is a stretch, and a better explanation is that when the writers wrote Walkabout they didn't think about how important the "Helen" character would be in Locke's life, and later just glossed it over as a coincidence (or maybe his own personal fantasy) that his new phone-lady has the same name as his former fiance.

    On another note, I think Terry O'Quinn is one of the best actors on this show. He was terrific on Alias and I remember him from his cameos on X-Files and in the X-Files movie (he plays the FBI agent who kills himself at the very beginning). The progression of his character through the past 5 seasons confirms that with me, with all of Locke's ups and downs, crazy despairing moments and confident, Anti-Locke moments :-)

    Have a good vacation! We'll miss you!

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  2. I work in accounting and I've never seen anyone use an adding machine left handed the way Locke does in the office scene. Strange.

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  3. I used to have to do a lot of data entry, and I would use the calculator with my left hand and enter the numbers into my computer using 10-key with my right hand. It takes a while to get it down, but it makes things go by pretty fast once you can.

    As far as this episode is concerned, I agree that it is one of the better ones, though I didn't think so at first. I was never a fan of Locke's backstory because I enjoyed the mysterious Locke on the island way more than the oft pathetic one pre-island. But now that Locke's journey has come to an end (maybe), I really appreciate his episodes because you get a real sense of how his character has developed and why.

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  4. Eye opening episode, to say the least.

    This eye happens to blink. Somethings different. Did we just see a body-snatch of Locke by MIB (Man In Black)? Very similar to Jacob's revival of dead Locke after his fall.

    A barking dog (repeated in several flashbacks and off-island events), pen/flash lights held at eye-level by many characters over the years (One eye light, the other dark), black shoes, wedding rings.

    Starting to get the hang of fLocke's unique expressions as he watches the events unfold on the beach.

    What is the point of MIB as fChristian showing himself to Jack at the edge of the jungle? He wants him to follow. But why? This fChristian is not very animated, looks stiff unlike what we will see later in the Cabin.

    Locke emerges with boar. I remember thinking Locke was certainly dead from Smokey. This was a big reveal making Locke super special and having connection with the island. But what I (we) really think today is that this is MIB starting to lead Locke through his 108 days of misdirection and manipulations all for the purpose of killing Jacob. Weird.

    Jack's insistence on burning instead of burying was a very Other-like decision.

    Randy. Who knew? There are no coincidences so I think maybe we'll see Randy again in S6 if we get MIB off-island flashbacks similar to Jacob's.

    Great episode. Everything a Lost fan wants - flight 815 crash site on the beach (where are all those survivors?), the monster, corruption, flashes, eyes, big reveals, hope, love, destiny.

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  5. The statement, "Don't tell me what I can't do" is used by Locke later on, as mentioned. That statement is also used by Jack and by Ben. Guess who they both said it to. =)

    Locke mentions later on (I belive it was to Eko) that what he saw was a bright white light. He also mentions he was looking into the eye of the island. Perhaps there are two monsters, or maybe the monster shows different sides to different people.

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  6. Gotta say, this may be my favorite episode ever...it is DEFINITELY the one that got me hooked on 'Lost' for the last five seasons. It has everything that makes the entire show great, plus the beginnings of Locke v. Shephard. The last scene brings a tear to my eye, seeing Locke unable to go on the Walkabout, then in the rain on the Island, saving people. Great writing, great acting.

    -jtwilham

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  7. I just watched this episode for the 5th or 6th time. Regarding Locke calleding Kate "Helen", I have felt that there is some significance about being close to the ground and past thoughts, possibly strong emotional thoughts, which may also be linked to why the Others do not bury their dead. But the other thing I noticed was that the second time Jack saw his father we was wearing white shoes, which appeared odd looking, as in they didn't match his outfit. The shoes he is wearing were an important part of a series 5 episode about making things on the 2nd doomed flight like the first. I just thought I would share these two points.

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  8. I'm with you on the white sneakers - I noticed them hanging in the bamboo in the Pilot Part 1 when Jack is 1st finding his way to the crash site...

    Other than that, I'm not sure how they fit in the puzzle here.

    The main thing that is nagging me in 'Walkabout' is Locke encountering Smokey (or whatever it was that confronted him, it's not absolutely certain that it was Smokey) and then lying about it!

    I'm not kidding, man that really bugs the crap about of me on re-watch.

    I know it's standard practice for all of the 815ers to withhold stuff from each other, but Jeeziz, but what the hell took place between Locke and whatever out there.

    I bet we see that scene replayed from whatever's POV at some point in S6.

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  9. I have been finding Locke's behavior even more odd in light of the revelations made at the end of Season 5. After Locke encounters Smokey during the hunt, I noticed that every time Jack chases after the apparition of his father, he ends up running into Locke. The first time was in this episode. Jack follows his father into the woods and out emerges Locke with the dead boar. The second time happens in the next episode, when Jack follows his father into the woods and almost falls off a cliff. Who appears out of nowhere to rescue him? None other than John Locke!

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  10. If MIB is able to inhabit Christian's body (which is a really common theory now), why didn't he use Christian--rather than waiting 3 years later for Locke's body to return to the island--to kill Jacob?

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  11. Surprised you did not mention that Abbadon is the one who put the thought of going on a walkabout in John's head. Thus the start of destiny talk from him.

    I think John saw either Jacob or Jacob's version of the monster. The bright light as he will tell Eko.

    Christian has me a little confused. Why I believe it's the man in black. I wonder if the tennis shoe wearing version is via Jacob and the other dressed version is the man in black. I'm thinking cause we saw Christian in the cabin with the close up of the eye ball that it's always been the man in black.

    I always thought the show would come down to a luke vs vader confrontation. Between jack and Christian with Locke as the obi wan to jack now that he is a believer.

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  12. First, I think that when Locke later on tells Eko about the bright white light and the 'eye'of the island, it is in reference to the hatch. That is the bright light, and that round hatch arguable does look like an eye, and was like looking straight to the center. It is all metaphorical but I had always assumed that is what was meant without question.

    Next, some think that Jakob can appear as others as well. I dont really believe that theory, but if it were true, it would be good visual evidence of which apparition is Jakob or Nemesis, assuming they hold onto their colors (white and dark).

    Lastly, I have a feeling that this episode, and things that happened to Locke on the island, will be part of a flashback during season 6. I think S6 will have flashbacks of earlier seasons and a way of revealing things to us. So as many said, there is more to everything here, in regards to Locke and fLocke. The nemesis having a role in this somehow?


    Also curious about Vincent taking on more of a roll than just a dog, the way he looks over people. Was there any of that in this episode? I know there has been in the past 3 episodes, and havent had a chance to rewatch this episode this week.

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  13. I love this episode.

    I love the tiny scene just you first see Locke move his toes.
    It show the sole of Locke shoe, and it's completely unspoiled, looks like it was just bought.

    A nice little hint at the fact that Locke hasn't touched the floor with them.

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  14. Anyone else notice that to scene of Locke looking at his wheelchair through the fire is nearly exactly the same as Season 5 Finale FLocke watching Jacob burn

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  15. Great writeup! You really help us see these older episodes in a new light, highlighting the fuller understanding that we can have after seeing everything else.

    But that said, I have a small piece of advice: what do you think about focusing more on those new understandings and less on the more mundane recapitulation of the plot? As it is, I find myself skimming through all the things I know (especially since I just recently watched the episode too) in search of the more subtle observations. I know I could head to the forums as well, but I appreciate having a single well-crafted article that I know I can turn to for a solid rewatch-recap. This is definitely that place, but it would be even better if it were trimmed of a little fat. (I hate to sound so negative! I really do love what you're doing here!)

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  16. I've been trying to figure out Christian's connection to MIB, and I still believe that Christian is MIB in disguise. But the problem for me has been the mobisode that showed Christian telling Vincent to "wake up my son". If that's MIB, why did he refer to Jack as his son? There's nobody around for him to try to deceive, so if that's not really Christian then why say that?

    Then I had a thought, as I recalled the way that the Smoke Monster attacked Danielle's team. As far as we can tell, it didn't kill them, it simply "reprogrammed" them, for lack of a better term. Perhaps this is what Richard meant when he said that healing young Ben would "make him one of us". So far we've only seen this process happen to living people. But what if Smokey could do the same for ghosts? If so, Christian would still be Christian, just reprogrammed like Danielle's team. So that would explain why he still calls Jack his son, but why he seems to be on MIB's side.

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  17. I loved this episode the first time around... It really solidified the fact that this show was always going to challenge the viewer and make you care about the character's and their inter-relationships.

    I always thought the Rose/Jack talk was strange, like Rose just quietly KNEW that Bernard could not possibly have died. Loved seeing them living off the land in The Incident.

    Thought for sure that Locke was in big trouble when confronting the Monster -- REALLY hoping for a flashback of this scene in S6 to find out exactly what he saw.

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  18. I was thinking that maybe Jacob will now move into Locke's dead body, and there will be two Lockes on the island in S6. The only way to visually tell them apart will be Christian's shoes. Were the shoes that Jack put on Locke in the coffin black?

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  19. The reason for not burying the 815 dead was to keep them from being dug up and eaten by wild animals per Jack. And burning them was a way to make sure there was no disease caused from decaying corpses.

    I think Locke's broody looks were because he was still marveling at being able to walk again.

    Who knows why the Others wouldn't bury their dead? Probably for the same reason..keep away wild animals. Maybe the Dhrama people just sent anyone who died off Island for burial where they came from.

    I am enjoying the first season more than when I first watched it so many years ago. I bumbled across Lost by sheer chance the night it first aired. I was surfing and happened to catch the show in the scene when he ran out on the beach, turned and saw the crash. I had no idea what this show was about. When the Monster first appeared shaking trees and making the weird noise I was hooked.

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  20. You are absolutely right about Jack's stated reason for the cremation of the fuselage bodies - I just keep wondering if there may be additional benefits that Jack was not necessarily aware of. We know that Ben's Others burned Coleen and sent the pyre adrit - and the reasons behind the ritual is not explained, so the writers have left us to all the crazy speculations that we can conjure - and we are really good at this kind of conjuring this far into the series.

    When you add in Fake Locke kicking Jacob into the fire ring, as well as Richard's bargaining for the Dharma corpses - all this really fuels the notion that there's some mojo afoot in this regard.

    My guess is that Miles will help us understand this in S6.

    As for Locke - I cannot get a couple of things out of my brain - the Smokey clickety-click sounds in the 'Tabula Rasa' fade, and him lying to Michael about whether or not he saw anything out in the jungle in 'Walkabout'. I'm not saying that he's already been taken over by Jacob's Enemy, but I can't help but thinking that seeds are being planted...

    I'm tempted to skip ahead to 'Deus Ex Machina' and 'Further Instructions', 'Orientation', 'Lockdown', 'Man from Talahassee', 'The Brig', 'Cabin Fever' just to see what other clues (or misdirections) are embedded in them.

    Yup, this re-watch is more fun than I ever would have expected 5 years ago - so glad I've been buying the DVD's! Like you said, from the first scene of the pilot episode (I watched it on my TIVO after my wife went to bed - she found the crash site to intense), this show just hooked me - but I had no idea it was gonna be this much fun...

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  21. Krindy,

    I wouldn't say there would be two Lockes in S6. Dead is dead! Bram and Ilana had his corpse in a crate.

    MIB must somehow need to have a corpse on the island to take that form though, and as we'll discuss after "White Rabbit" where did Christian's corpse go before Jack found the coffin in the caves?

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  22. The theory that the body has to be on the island in order for MIB to take its form makes sense....except for two cases when Ben sees his mother on the other side of the sonic fence, and when Kate sees the black horse. Neither have bodies on the island to our knowledge.
    I think its the most valid theory, but these are two counterarguments.

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  23. I've been wondering for a while if MIB and Smokey are two separate entities, but with similar abilities. Perhaps they can both mimic others, but MIB requires a corpse while Smokey requires a memory.

    MIB would then be limited by being able to copy only corpses that are on the Island. We don't know if MIB had access to Locke's corpse before Ilana and Bram got to it, but if not then he doesn't need to touch a corpse in order to copy it--only for the corpse to be on the Island. Perhaps an additional limitation is that the corpse must stay on the Island in order for MIB to continue copying it. I'm thinking that MIB has the ability to switch back and forth between forms--such as between Locke and Christian. My suspicion is that the guy we see on the beach talking to Jacob in the 1800's is not his true form, but merely the form of a corpse he's copied.

    Smokey would be limited to copy those from memories it has accessed, such as the men that Eko killed. It might also be able to copy anyone it has seen. I'm also wondering if the Whispers are simply the indication that Smokey is nearby and scanning your mind--even if you can't see it.

    Another limitation for Smokey might be that its apparitions are somewhat robotic if it has only scanned from sight and doesn't have any memories of the person it's copying so as to know how it should act or sound. In other words, if it saw Christian's corpse before it was removed from the coffin, it would only know what he looked like--not what he sounded like or how he acted. Therefore it would be limited to copying Christian's appearance. Later appearances of Christian are most likely MIB, however.

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  24. I have wondered all these years what happened to Christian corpse. Jack had to break the coffing open so that eliminates the thought that something ate it. And what is weird is Jack just accepting the empty coffin.

    From watching these first episodes I am starting to lean toward this being a time loop thingie. I think some of our main losties remember what happened and some don't. I can't quote anything said, but it feels like jack, kate, and some remember. But for some reason I don't think James (sawyer) does. Or if he does that would explain why he wanted to stay in 1977 with Juliet so badly.
    Sayid said in one of the early episodes that Nadia was dead then he would say she wasn't, then he would say he wasn't sure.
    I think he remembers and hopes to fix things for her this time

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  25. I am sorry, but what is the point of telling us what happened in the episode with no analysis? Isn't this rewatch predicated on the fact that we all are RE_WATCHING the series? So, having a blog that simply tells us what happened in the episode and nothing else seems extremely redundant. How about a very short recap with an opinion about the relevance of the episode to the overall series? When you guys decide to do that I will come back and read it otherwise I will be at the other sites. Thank you and goodbye!

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  26. I think I must be the only watcher who finds the Locke character very tiresome. He constantly loops between blinding arrogance and crippling self-doubt. He didn't seem to have much of a shot at redemption when he was alive, but now that he's dead, all bets are off. That his poor, ego-driven and misled deadman has, even as some kind of possessed entity, become a leader is really
    too much.

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  27. Where are the recaps for this week's episodes?

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  28. Found it interesting that Kate may be foreshadowing a little bit when she tells Jack that “Locke is gone”. She was assuming that the Smoke Monster killed him. We see that the Smoke Monster and Locke have “some kind of interaction”, but we don’t really see that exchange. Later Jack and Kate stumble upon Locke dragging a bore back to camp eerily similar to Locke bringing the bore back to Richard’s camp in Season 5.
    Just throwing this out there….what if we find out next season that “Locke really was gone”, and that there was some sort of “inhabitation” of Locke by the Smoke Monster all the way back in season 1. I bet we will see some sort of flashback to that first exchange between Locke and the Smoke Monster. After all we at least know that it gave him the bore.
    “A Walkabout is a journey of spiritual renewal, where one derives strength from the earth and becomes inseparable from it”

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  29. I got out of sync watching my dvd's and hit something I must share with ya'll.

    As soon as I realized I had jumped ahead I got out of that episode, but..

    I watched a scene of jack walking up to Locke sitting on the beach. It looked familiar and dang if it didn't remind me of jacob and the MIB scene. The lines the actors spoke were almost identical to the ones the Jacob/MIB spoke including Jack asking if he might join Locke then when the talking was over..Locke said..Nice talking to you Jack.

    surely the producers couldn't imagine and write that far ahead.

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  30. I got out of sync watching my dvd's and hit something I must share with ya'll.

    As soon as I realized I had jumped ahead I got out of that episode, but..

    I watched a scene of jack walking up to Locke sitting on the beach. It looked familiar and dang if it didn't remind me of jacob and the MIB scene. The lines the actors spoke were almost identical to the ones the Jacob/MIB spoke including Jack asking if he might join Locke then when the talking was over..Locke said..Nice talking to you Jack.

    surely the producers couldn't imagine and write that far ahead.

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  31. Joyce said...
    I got out of sync watching my dvd's and hit something I must share with ya'll.
    As soon as I realized I had jumped ahead I got out of that episode, but..


    Cool!!!
    What episode is that?

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  32. It was after Walkabout..I believe it could have been episode 6,7,maybe 8. Its early in the shows I know that. I put the wrong DVD in my computer. It was later that it hit me what the actor's said to one another. As we go through this rewatch all of you will see it.

    Now that I reflect on this, I believe that the writer's used this scene to introduce us to Jacob and MIB instead of thinking that far ahead.

    Talking about course correction and time lines..article on Fox News home page...a couple that missed the doomed Air France flight and took the next one was in an accident overseas..car wreck..the woman died and the man was badly injured.

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  33. Hiya. I know you guys probably arent there yet... But I started the Rewatch Early... Anycase, In White Rabbit Charlie wakes Jack saying Joanna's drowning... But He says "I would have gone myself but I dont swim" Yet... in season 3 he is to be able to swim down to think? But... On this episode- obviously you guys have probably noticed but his calculating is the SAME sound the smoke monster makes... why would that be?

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  34. In response to your comment Imisscharlie, regarding Charlie Swimming.

    You're quite right in saying that Charlie couldn't swim in the first season but suddenly could do so in Season 3 to get to the looking glass.

    There is also a suggestion that he would have drowned (as he could not swim very well) if he had tried to save Claire in Flashes Before Your Eyes. Desmond saved her instead.

    There was a theory around the time of the end of Season 3, that Desmond was able to change the past. In Greatest Hits, when Charlie is being taught to swim by his Dad at the public pool, you can hear someone shout "Wait up Desmond" or something of the like. The theory being that Desmond was able to re-live the day like he did others and somehow changed it (as Faraday said, Desmond is "special", i.e. the rules don't apply to him and he and only he can change the past.)

    Perhaps in the previous version of events before the hatch exploded and Desmond obtained his ability to re-live the past, Charlie never got into the pool because he was too scared and therefore never learnt to swim. However in the alternate future, somehow Desmond encouraged Charlie to get in the pool, (perhaps minutes earlier) which changed Charlie's life ever so slightly to allow him to know how to swim.

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  35. Yeah, thats a REALLY good theory I LOVE theories and making theories and listening to them... Yeah, Ill watch that episode and try and hear that...

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  36. The episode with the scene between Locke and Jack is: Hearts and Minds.

    I get them all mixed up. Anyway i was wrong about Jack saying "nice talking to you" What was said was
    Jack: Mind if I join you"
    Jack: Seen any ships?
    Its 28 minutes into the DVD.

    I didn't skip ahead as bad as I thought..this episode is right after Walkabout.

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  37. Thanks Joyce - I'm gonna check that one out.

    The line about the ships - that's wild!!!

    'Hearts and Minds' is episode 13 btw...

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  38. It is possible that after Ethan hung Charlie from the tree vines, that from then on, Charlie may have actually been Evil Charlie. I believe in season 6, we will see a lot of characters who we thought were themselves, actually being Evil versions of themselves in the previous 5 seasons. Here is an example:
    When Jin was found floating after the freighter blew up. Maybe he died and is now possessed by smokey. It is fair to say that as the Lost Rewatch continues, any situation where a character looks like they are dead, but come back to life they may no longer be themselves. It is also fair to assume that the given character may not necessarily be possessed by Nemesis, but perhaps by Jacob... I cant remember what episode it was, think it was season 1 EP 2, Sawyer, Sayid Kate and others are trying to find the radio tower, but there is a shot where Vincent the dog is in the bushes just.....watching them. Many times in various episodes, vincent gets involved with the plot (finding stuff, leading characters to certain places, etc). I think in season 6 this will be important. Is the dog possessed perhaps. And by who. Maybe the same body can be possessed by Nemesis and Jacob at different times.

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  39. Another thought. Over and over in the first episodes fish and fishing were brought up with close shots of the caught fish.

    All the fish used so far appear to be a South Pacific fish that is actually a rockfish and called red snapper by mistake because of the color. And Jacob caught and cooked one also.

    True red snapper live mostly in the Gulf of Mexico and some types in the Atlantic. Enough of this.

    Fish over and over. For food and perhaps just a mite symbolic no? As in Jesus telling his disciples to come and be fishers of men. Does Jacob collect people for his use in besting MIB?

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  40. Idk about that idea... Charlie was just to sweet to have been posessed by the smoke monster... Im sorry- I dont agree. Could be though... about the John thing, I think it may just be because he was always "special" and was made to lead the Others.

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  41. I just started watching Lost last November -- borrowed the first season and within two weeks I'd watched all three seasons and was waiting for Season 4 to come out. Now I own them all, and I have to say that this episode was the one that made me go "Oh, okay, now you're hooked." So good stuff. And I disagree that the writers just connected the dots after Season 1 -- I think they had the first couple of years figured out from the jump.

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