tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post990781473821005269..comments2023-10-25T06:16:20.123-04:00Comments on Lostpedia Blog: Deconstructing: "The Sickness"Jabberwockhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07886141036635080006noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-34980130934896680692009-03-05T12:46:00.000-05:002009-03-05T12:46:00.000-05:00i kind of agrre with what alex just posted. any go...i kind of agrre with what alex just posted. any goof that might or might not be apparent in the exchange between rousseau and sayid is just keeping with the show's theme of none of the characters being completely truthful/honest with each other. besides for the fact the she had no idea who sayid was and if she could even trust who he said he was, what was she going to tell him? "oh yeah, me and my crew were attacked by a smoke monster in the jungle and i had to kill them because it made them insane."? would he have believed/understood her? or would it even had mattered? <BR/>as far as "the sickness" i definitely think what danielle was referring to was what the men in her crew had gone through after being on the island for awhile. and to me, it had nothing to do with the time disorientation and everything to do with the monster. if you remember, the "time sickness" came as a result of CLOSE PROXIMITY with the island i.e. en route. the closer certain people got, the more likely they were to suffer the same set of symptoms as minkowski, brandon and regina suffered. but, as evidenced, not eveyone got sick. and those who did get sick lasted longer than others. remember desmond as they were traveling to the kahana? he started freaking out too, same symptoms, different results, same causes (essentially).<BR/>danielle's crew could have been driven insane, it could have been a case of severe distrust brought on by the monster's ability to change shape, or it could have simply just driven them mad.<BR/>why did she shoot at jin? what would you have done? ask him politely why he vanished in a flash of light and then reappeared two months later, and oh yeah by the way, are you going to kill me just like my lover just tried to? i think you'd probably shoot first and ask questions later if you had just been through what she had been through. <BR/>finally, as for the whole pregnancy thing, i still think that's a whole different bag of peanuts. but i'm sure we'll find out everything eventually. this is lost by the way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-7431795391467474382009-02-23T05:28:00.000-05:002009-02-23T05:28:00.000-05:00I think pretty much any goof made in Rousseau's ea...I think pretty much any goof made in Rousseau's earlier conversation with Sayid can be explained by the fact that she's INSANE. Seriously, doesn't it turn out that she was already making up some of the stuff about the others in season one?<BR/><BR/>Alternatively she said the Others were carriers, Jin probably looked like an Other to her.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-81575119431630074792009-02-22T03:09:00.000-05:002009-02-22T03:09:00.000-05:00The producers have already said the Smoke Monster ...The producers have already said the Smoke Monster is *not* the nano-bot cloud from Prey.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-26771116658669344522009-02-20T20:39:00.000-05:002009-02-20T20:39:00.000-05:00Great recap of the sickness. I can't help but kee...Great recap of the sickness. I can't help but keep wondering if the monster has the same characteristics as the nanobots in Prey by Michael Crichton. The nanobots basically became the form of any person and could mimic their personality. Remember Yemmi said to Eko, "you look at me like if I was your brother", before he lured Eko into the jungle to die. I see the same characteristic here with Robert trying to lure Danielle (but she outsmarted it).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-29580578613154095442009-02-19T00:00:00.000-05:002009-02-19T00:00:00.000-05:00Don't all you people have ANYTHING better to do??Don't all you people have ANYTHING better to do??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-23938641684232915962009-02-18T16:00:00.000-05:002009-02-18T16:00:00.000-05:00How did Faraday get back in time when the doc had ...How did Faraday get back in time when the doc had to leave his dharma inititive. I think it was 5-2 or 2. I dont remeber how he even was down there. they dont explain that. And how did they find the arch if it was blocked by the wall. Dont you remember the guy that was taken out from a nose bleed just like the time travler's. I think that jacob is locke in body form. Maybe locke was the old ship cap. I think The island makes those who bleed as a warning to let them know that they are going to die. It takes out the least important ppl first. <BR/><BR/>Maybe Alpert is the captian of the old ship. Isnt that weird that it is a wheel they turn. It kinda looks like a ship wheel. Maybe it is the fountian of youth and alpert is just throwing everyone for a loop just to keep it safe.. just some Idea'sAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-56078631761134901272009-02-18T13:07:00.000-05:002009-02-18T13:07:00.000-05:00Anonymous - I heard somewhere (on Lostpedia?) that...Anonymous - I heard somewhere (on Lostpedia?) that Canton-Rainier is an anagram for reincarnation. I agree with the earlier comment, that the Others are carriers because they're somehow responsible for "infecting" the science team. My question, then, is Juliet. Did she undergo the brainwashing? If so, what's her motive? I've never quite trusted her...Jacobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02772236202920110136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-31945081276645965032009-02-18T05:46:00.000-05:002009-02-18T05:46:00.000-05:00Brian - I don't think what we saw her team in was ...Brian - I don't think what we saw her team in was their actual ship - it was a dingy after their ship's hull was breached etc - they abandoned into an escape raftNickb123https://www.blogger.com/profile/12751938360325641849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-84277980447103112162009-02-17T22:56:00.000-05:002009-02-17T22:56:00.000-05:00did the carpet van Ben was driving to the church h...did the carpet van Ben was driving to the church have a meaning like the funeral home a couple seasons ago? changing the letters to flash forward. the name on the van was canton-rainier ... ???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-11141062972265251142009-02-17T21:20:00.000-05:002009-02-17T21:20:00.000-05:00Is no one concerned that when Rousseau talks to Sa...Is no one concerned that when Rousseau talks to Sayid, she says the ship hit rocks? There was no hull on that raft. Also, it didn't look like they had dug out a temporary shelter, but were simply using a tent. That seems like a major mess-up on the part of the writers.<BR/><BR/>At this point in the show, the writers wouldn't waste so much time on Rousseau and her team if the sickness didn't mean something more to the whole of the show. For that reason, I'm sure it has something to do with Ol' Smokey, whom we hadn't seen in a while. This sickness idea might explain some other things that have happened in episodes past.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15489332130493602467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-89016639036945895062009-02-17T17:13:00.000-05:002009-02-17T17:13:00.000-05:00The 2 months could be the short time period that f...The 2 months could be the short time period that flashed Jin ahead. There doesn't seem to be as much time between travels now. The pendulum seems to be slowing down.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-60847385721605577282009-02-17T15:04:00.000-05:002009-02-17T15:04:00.000-05:00I found it stange, too, that Danielle said somethi...I found it stange, too, that Danielle said something to Jin like, "You disappeared." -Then said he was sick (or a 'carrier') as well. -Was she just trigger happy at that point and was just going to shoot him because it's strange to disappear? -Did some of her crew disappear as well? If so, did they go w/ the others? Did they time travel? Maybe she's just thinking about how they 'disappeared' into the hole? Maybe I'm reading too much into this??Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07495328301805978066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-59839173699158521752009-02-16T19:42:00.000-05:002009-02-16T19:42:00.000-05:00You know with all the points brought up I have to ...You know with all the points brought up I have to wonder if there even is a single unifying theory on the Sickness really. Perhaps it's symptoms/deaths are the result of a person/entity that shouldn't be there? The victims' symptoms/deaths are actually the calamity (and not a biological agent) that ensues which affects all/most/some of those that came in contact with the entity?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18147873564535462633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-59171147146892616402009-02-16T16:22:00.000-05:002009-02-16T16:22:00.000-05:00the thing about sickness is that it seems to be se...the thing about sickness is that it seems to be several ailments spoken of together.<BR/><BR/>there is this insanity related to the monster, there is the time travel sickness when travelling time, there is the illness when leaving and approaching the island. The time travel related sicknesses, which may be the same as the illness leaving and coming to the island, seems distinct from the insanity caused by the monster.<BR/><BR/>Then there is the illness as it relates to maternity.<BR/><BR/>And which of these requires "quarantine" procedures? And which is supposed to be helped by the Dharma drugs?<BR/><BR/>-harcourtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-28000759038460980852009-02-16T14:42:00.000-05:002009-02-16T14:42:00.000-05:00Thanks Blake. I checked the transcript, and I see ...Thanks Blake. I checked the transcript, and I see that she never said the word carrier to Robert, only to Jin. So that means Robert and co. weren't carriers, they were all infected. It sounds too like the sickness came to each of them directly, as she says to Robert "that thing changed you" as opposed to something like "you caught it". It adds to the idea that they were all infected while inside the temple... but then that just doesn't fit with the bit about them being there two months before it happened. I'm leaning on the writer goof theory over that one to be honest.Nickb123https://www.blogger.com/profile/12751938360325641849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-42399826730646743102009-02-16T14:34:00.000-05:002009-02-16T14:34:00.000-05:00Nice post Nick. Regarding carriers though - a carr...Nice post Nick. Regarding carriers though - a carrier is someone who <I>transmits</I> a disease, while usually not even showing symptoms of the disease themselves. So in "Solitary", I think Danielle was clearly implicating the Others as being the transmitters. It wouldn't make sense to say that her team contracted the disease to themselves, in other words. <BR/><BR/>Of course in "This Place is Death", she thinks that it was the monster that made them sick, but perhaps she revised her opinion after having heard the whispers for all those years.Grafthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13470843667461387409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-60330319822493841452009-02-16T13:40:00.000-05:002009-02-16T13:40:00.000-05:00nabeel - I completely agree about the possibility ...nabeel - I completely agree about the possibility that Robert just joined up with the Others team. But the problem with that though is just Robert's willingness to shoot his love and his own baby.Nickb123https://www.blogger.com/profile/12751938360325641849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-1792621543583249852009-02-16T13:12:00.000-05:002009-02-16T13:12:00.000-05:00Lots of things to consider but like you said we sh...Lots of things to consider but like you said we shouldn't forget the 'cabin fever' afflicted Kahana crew. From what we've seen they were all suicides and (aside from Keamy & his Blackwater-esque squad) weren't hostile to one another. <BR/><BR/>Remember that Christian and Libby did appear to Michael on the Kahana so if the apparitions are the work of the Monster we can assume that it could have worked it's sickness 'voodoo' on the crew. Maybe the Sickness is just the Monster using people from the victim's past to guilt trip them into being suicidal/hostile to one another?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18147873564535462633noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-84281522104438897672009-02-16T12:55:00.000-05:002009-02-16T12:55:00.000-05:00Great deconstruction, NickB! I have long been ver...Great deconstruction, NickB! I have long been very curious about the nature of 'the sickness' and Rousseau's team, so it's good to see Lostpedia and its top minds looking deep into the matter :DAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4920393039273628205.post-91085466748690398132009-02-16T12:54:00.000-05:002009-02-16T12:54:00.000-05:00Interesting post, Nick. I have heard other discuss...Interesting post, Nick. I have heard other discussions speculating what happened down in the temple, and what could have changed them so much for Danielle to consider them "sick". Robert wasn't visibly ill or hurt, and the only indication that something was wrong was his attempt to kill Danielle right after he tried to rationalise with her. It suggests that he is unaffected physiologically, but in fact has undergone a change of mind in some way or other. Maybe they turned over to the Others' side, as did Cindy and the tailies years later?nabeelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00746797426977399023noreply@blogger.com