Comments on Lostpedia Blog: The Lost Rewatch: 1x04 "Walkabout"

I just started watching Lost last November -- borr...

2009-06-13T17:46:46.001-07:00

I just started watching Lost last November -- borrowed the first season and within two weeks I'd watched all three seasons and was waiting for Season 4 to come out. Now I own them all, and I have to say that this episode was the one that made me go "Oh, okay, now you're hooked." So good stuff. And I disagree that the writers just connected the dots after Season 1 -- I think they had the first couple of years figured out from the jump.

Idk about that idea... Charlie was just to sweet t...

2009-06-12T16:34:42.744-07:00

Idk about that idea... Charlie was just to sweet to have been posessed by the smoke monster... Im sorry- I dont agree. Could be though... about the John thing, I think it may just be because he was always "special" and was made to lead the Others.

Another thought. Over and over in the first episo...

2009-06-12T09:49:43.203-07:00

Another thought. Over and over in the first episodes fish and fishing were brought up with close shots of the caught fish.

All the fish used so far appear to be a South Pacific fish that is actually a rockfish and called red snapper by mistake because of the color. And Jacob caught and cooked one also.

True red snapper live mostly in the Gulf of Mexico and some types in the Atlantic. Enough of this.

Fish over and over. For food and perhaps just a mite symbolic no? As in Jesus telling his disciples to come and be fishers of men. Does Jacob collect people for his use in besting MIB?

It is possible that after Ethan hung Charlie from ...

2009-06-12T08:48:44.493-07:00

It is possible that after Ethan hung Charlie from the tree vines, that from then on, Charlie may have actually been Evil Charlie. I believe in season 6, we will see a lot of characters who we thought were themselves, actually being Evil versions of themselves in the previous 5 seasons. Here is an example:
When Jin was found floating after the freighter blew up. Maybe he died and is now possessed by smokey. It is fair to say that as the Lost Rewatch continues, any situation where a character looks like they are dead, but come back to life they may no longer be themselves. It is also fair to assume that the given character may not necessarily be possessed by Nemesis, but perhaps by Jacob... I cant remember what episode it was, think it was season 1 EP 2, Sawyer, Sayid Kate and others are trying to find the radio tower, but there is a shot where Vincent the dog is in the bushes just.....watching them. Many times in various episodes, vincent gets involved with the plot (finding stuff, leading characters to certain places, etc). I think in season 6 this will be important. Is the dog possessed perhaps. And by who. Maybe the same body can be possessed by Nemesis and Jacob at different times.

Thanks Joyce - I'm gonna check that one out. The ...

2009-06-11T21:14:30.955-07:00

Thanks Joyce - I'm gonna check that one out.

The line about the ships - that's wild!!!

'Hearts and Minds' is episode 13 btw...

The episode with the scene between Locke and Jack ...

2009-06-11T19:33:27.060-07:00

The episode with the scene between Locke and Jack is: Hearts and Minds.

I get them all mixed up. Anyway i was wrong about Jack saying "nice talking to you" What was said was
Jack: Mind if I join you"
Jack: Seen any ships?
Its 28 minutes into the DVD.

I didn't skip ahead as bad as I thought..this episode is right after Walkabout.

Yeah, thats a REALLY good theory I LOVE theories a...

2009-06-11T17:38:30.813-07:00

Yeah, thats a REALLY good theory I LOVE theories and making theories and listening to them... Yeah, Ill watch that episode and try and hear that...

In response to your comment Imisscharlie, regardin...

2009-06-11T17:10:26.171-07:00

In response to your comment Imisscharlie, regarding Charlie Swimming.

You're quite right in saying that Charlie couldn't swim in the first season but suddenly could do so in Season 3 to get to the looking glass.

There is also a suggestion that he would have drowned (as he could not swim very well) if he had tried to save Claire in Flashes Before Your Eyes. Desmond saved her instead.

There was a theory around the time of the end of Season 3, that Desmond was able to change the past. In Greatest Hits, when Charlie is being taught to swim by his Dad at the public pool, you can hear someone shout "Wait up Desmond" or something of the like. The theory being that Desmond was able to re-live the day like he did others and somehow changed it (as Faraday said, Desmond is "special", i.e. the rules don't apply to him and he and only he can change the past.)

Perhaps in the previous version of events before the hatch exploded and Desmond obtained his ability to re-live the past, Charlie never got into the pool because he was too scared and therefore never learnt to swim. However in the alternate future, somehow Desmond encouraged Charlie to get in the pool, (perhaps minutes earlier) which changed Charlie's life ever so slightly to allow him to know how to swim.

Hiya. I know you guys probably arent there yet... ...

2009-06-11T15:41:00.198-07:00

Hiya. I know you guys probably arent there yet... But I started the Rewatch Early... Anycase, In White Rabbit Charlie wakes Jack saying Joanna's drowning... But He says "I would have gone myself but I dont swim" Yet... in season 3 he is to be able to swim down to think? But... On this episode- obviously you guys have probably noticed but his calculating is the SAME sound the smoke monster makes... why would that be?

It was after Walkabout..I believe it could have be...

2009-06-11T15:22:40.860-07:00

It was after Walkabout..I believe it could have been episode 6,7,maybe 8. Its early in the shows I know that. I put the wrong DVD in my computer. It was later that it hit me what the actor's said to one another. As we go through this rewatch all of you will see it.

Now that I reflect on this, I believe that the writer's used this scene to introduce us to Jacob and MIB instead of thinking that far ahead.

Talking about course correction and time lines..article on Fox News home page...a couple that missed the doomed Air France flight and took the next one was in an accident overseas..car wreck..the woman died and the man was badly injured.

Joyce said... I got out of sync watching my dv...

2009-06-11T11:58:24.879-07:00

Joyce said...
I got out of sync watching my dvd's and hit something I must share with ya'll.
As soon as I realized I had jumped ahead I got out of that episode, but..

Cool!!!
What episode is that?

I got out of sync watching my dvd's and hit someth...

2009-06-11T07:20:31.263-07:00

I got out of sync watching my dvd's and hit something I must share with ya'll.

As soon as I realized I had jumped ahead I got out of that episode, but..

I watched a scene of jack walking up to Locke sitting on the beach. It looked familiar and dang if it didn't remind me of jacob and the MIB scene. The lines the actors spoke were almost identical to the ones the Jacob/MIB spoke including Jack asking if he might join Locke then when the talking was over..Locke said..Nice talking to you Jack.

surely the producers couldn't imagine and write that far ahead.

I got out of sync watching my dvd's and hit someth...

2009-06-11T07:20:19.596-07:00

Found it interesting that Kate may be foreshadowin...

2009-06-11T05:21:59.840-07:00

Found it interesting that Kate may be foreshadowing a little bit when she tells Jack that “Locke is gone”. She was assuming that the Smoke Monster killed him. We see that the Smoke Monster and Locke have “some kind of interaction”, but we don’t really see that exchange. Later Jack and Kate stumble upon Locke dragging a bore back to camp eerily similar to Locke bringing the bore back to Richard’s camp in Season 5.
Just throwing this out there….what if we find out next season that “Locke really was gone”, and that there was some sort of “inhabitation” of Locke by the Smoke Monster all the way back in season 1. I bet we will see some sort of flashback to that first exchange between Locke and the Smoke Monster. After all we at least know that it gave him the bore.
“A Walkabout is a journey of spiritual renewal, where one derives strength from the earth and becomes inseparable from it”

Where are the recaps for this week's episodes?

2009-06-11T00:33:03.081-07:00

Where are the recaps for this week's episodes?

I think I must be the only watcher who finds the L...

2009-06-10T16:40:08.432-07:00

I think I must be the only watcher who finds the Locke character very tiresome. He constantly loops between blinding arrogance and crippling self-doubt. He didn't seem to have much of a shot at redemption when he was alive, but now that he's dead, all bets are off. That his poor, ego-driven and misled deadman has, even as some kind of possessed entity, become a leader is really
too much.

I am sorry, but what is the point of telling us wh...

2009-06-10T15:58:16.316-07:00

I am sorry, but what is the point of telling us what happened in the episode with no analysis? Isn't this rewatch predicated on the fact that we all are RE_WATCHING the series? So, having a blog that simply tells us what happened in the episode and nothing else seems extremely redundant. How about a very short recap with an opinion about the relevance of the episode to the overall series? When you guys decide to do that I will come back and read it otherwise I will be at the other sites. Thank you and goodbye!

I have wondered all these years what happened to C...

2009-06-10T07:43:37.554-07:00

I have wondered all these years what happened to Christian corpse. Jack had to break the coffing open so that eliminates the thought that something ate it. And what is weird is Jack just accepting the empty coffin.

From watching these first episodes I am starting to lean toward this being a time loop thingie. I think some of our main losties remember what happened and some don't. I can't quote anything said, but it feels like jack, kate, and some remember. But for some reason I don't think James (sawyer) does. Or if he does that would explain why he wanted to stay in 1977 with Juliet so badly.
Sayid said in one of the early episodes that Nadia was dead then he would say she wasn't, then he would say he wasn't sure.
I think he remembers and hopes to fix things for her this time

I've been wondering for a while if MIB and Smokey ...

2009-06-09T17:00:04.880-07:00

I've been wondering for a while if MIB and Smokey are two separate entities, but with similar abilities. Perhaps they can both mimic others, but MIB requires a corpse while Smokey requires a memory.

MIB would then be limited by being able to copy only corpses that are on the Island. We don't know if MIB had access to Locke's corpse before Ilana and Bram got to it, but if not then he doesn't need to touch a corpse in order to copy it--only for the corpse to be on the Island. Perhaps an additional limitation is that the corpse must stay on the Island in order for MIB to continue copying it. I'm thinking that MIB has the ability to switch back and forth between forms--such as between Locke and Christian. My suspicion is that the guy we see on the beach talking to Jacob in the 1800's is not his true form, but merely the form of a corpse he's copied.

Smokey would be limited to copy those from memories it has accessed, such as the men that Eko killed. It might also be able to copy anyone it has seen. I'm also wondering if the Whispers are simply the indication that Smokey is nearby and scanning your mind--even if you can't see it.

Another limitation for Smokey might be that its apparitions are somewhat robotic if it has only scanned from sight and doesn't have any memories of the person it's copying so as to know how it should act or sound. In other words, if it saw Christian's corpse before it was removed from the coffin, it would only know what he looked like--not what he sounded like or how he acted. Therefore it would be limited to copying Christian's appearance. Later appearances of Christian are most likely MIB, however.

The theory that the body has to be on the island i...

2009-06-09T15:35:18.368-07:00

The theory that the body has to be on the island in order for MIB to take its form makes sense....except for two cases when Ben sees his mother on the other side of the sonic fence, and when Kate sees the black horse. Neither have bodies on the island to our knowledge.
I think its the most valid theory, but these are two counterarguments.

Krindy, I wouldn't say there would be two Lockes ...

2009-06-09T15:01:24.459-07:00

Krindy,

I wouldn't say there would be two Lockes in S6. Dead is dead! Bram and Ilana had his corpse in a crate.

MIB must somehow need to have a corpse on the island to take that form though, and as we'll discuss after "White Rabbit" where did Christian's corpse go before Jack found the coffin in the caves?

You are absolutely right about Jack's stated reaso...

2009-06-09T14:45:34.342-07:00

You are absolutely right about Jack's stated reason for the cremation of the fuselage bodies - I just keep wondering if there may be additional benefits that Jack was not necessarily aware of. We know that Ben's Others burned Coleen and sent the pyre adrit - and the reasons behind the ritual is not explained, so the writers have left us to all the crazy speculations that we can conjure - and we are really good at this kind of conjuring this far into the series.

When you add in Fake Locke kicking Jacob into the fire ring, as well as Richard's bargaining for the Dharma corpses - all this really fuels the notion that there's some mojo afoot in this regard.

My guess is that Miles will help us understand this in S6.

As for Locke - I cannot get a couple of things out of my brain - the Smokey clickety-click sounds in the 'Tabula Rasa' fade, and him lying to Michael about whether or not he saw anything out in the jungle in 'Walkabout'. I'm not saying that he's already been taken over by Jacob's Enemy, but I can't help but thinking that seeds are being planted...

I'm tempted to skip ahead to 'Deus Ex Machina' and 'Further Instructions', 'Orientation', 'Lockdown', 'Man from Talahassee', 'The Brig', 'Cabin Fever' just to see what other clues (or misdirections) are embedded in them.

Yup, this re-watch is more fun than I ever would have expected 5 years ago - so glad I've been buying the DVD's! Like you said, from the first scene of the pilot episode (I watched it on my TIVO after my wife went to bed - she found the crash site to intense), this show just hooked me - but I had no idea it was gonna be this much fun...

The reason for not burying the 815 dead was to kee...

2009-06-09T12:25:25.706-07:00

The reason for not burying the 815 dead was to keep them from being dug up and eaten by wild animals per Jack. And burning them was a way to make sure there was no disease caused from decaying corpses.

I think Locke's broody looks were because he was still marveling at being able to walk again.

Who knows why the Others wouldn't bury their dead? Probably for the same reason..keep away wild animals. Maybe the Dhrama people just sent anyone who died off Island for burial where they came from.

I am enjoying the first season more than when I first watched it so many years ago. I bumbled across Lost by sheer chance the night it first aired. I was surfing and happened to catch the show in the scene when he ran out on the beach, turned and saw the crash. I had no idea what this show was about. When the Monster first appeared shaking trees and making the weird noise I was hooked.

I was thinking that maybe Jacob will now move into...

2009-06-09T11:58:12.926-07:00

I was thinking that maybe Jacob will now move into Locke's dead body, and there will be two Lockes on the island in S6. The only way to visually tell them apart will be Christian's shoes. Were the shoes that Jack put on Locke in the coffin black?

I loved this episode the first time around... It r...

2009-06-09T10:39:08.459-07:00

I loved this episode the first time around... It really solidified the fact that this show was always going to challenge the viewer and make you care about the character's and their inter-relationships.

I always thought the Rose/Jack talk was strange, like Rose just quietly KNEW that Bernard could not possibly have died. Loved seeing them living off the land in The Incident.

Thought for sure that Locke was in big trouble when confronting the Monster -- REALLY hoping for a flashback of this scene in S6 to find out exactly what he saw.