Comments on Lostpedia Blog: 5x14 "Follow the Leader" Review

I'm new to this so pardon if I don't do right. As...

2009-05-13T08:58:00.000-07:00

I'm new to this so pardon if I don't do right. As the last episode was ending I had a funny thought... What if (should be the motto of Lost) when Locke and his posse got to Jacob he turned out to be "The Professor" (who did all kinds of super stuff with coconuts) and they were told they were on Gilligans Island this whole time. ...Now on to my real theory: The Island is The Biblical Garden of Eden, Richard is the Gate Guarding Angel, Smoke monster is his sword (weapon) to defend & protect the Island from expelled mankind, Ben is the agent of Satan, Locke is the current trusted member of Man to bring them back in line with the Will of The Creator, The others are members of the Biblical fallen Angels, Jacob is The unseen embodiment of the God Spirit able to create at will ... Y'all see where this is going. Take it from here...

I think perhaps the Losties time-shifted at the ti...

2009-05-11T22:30:00.000-07:00

I think perhaps the Losties time-shifted at the time of the incident and Richard believes they were incinerated or they must change things to avoid the fate Richard saw. Also I can't believe that, although John Locke no longer worries about Ben, he would honor him with the truth at will and may very well be giving Ben misinformation about his intention to kill Jacob.

Why didn't they take Daniel to the temple and heal...

2009-05-10T18:21:00.000-07:00

Why didn't they take Daniel to the temple and heal him like they did with Ben?

Yeh mentioning Jacob to Richard makes him intruige...

2009-05-10T11:25:00.000-07:00

Yeh mentioning Jacob to Richard makes him intruiged about Locke

Also someone said something about Jacob being a my...

2009-05-10T10:57:00.000-07:00

Also someone said something about Jacob being a myth Locke created back in the 50s? Well this wouldn't fit with how when Locke said 'Jacob sent me', Alpert decided to listen to him and talk to him. If Jacob was not even known back then, then Alpert would have simply gone 'who's Jacob?'..

If I am wrong someone tell me, I'm just finding the episode to confirm..

Lance please say you're joking that you think you'...

2009-05-10T10:42:00.000-07:00

Lance please say you're joking that you think you've spotted something no one else has :|OF COURSE IT'S FRICKIN' INTENTIONAL

Hey, has anyone else noticed that everyone from th...

2009-05-10T03:49:00.000-07:00

Hey, has anyone else noticed that everyone from the science team on the freighter has parents who lived on the island? Man Widmore sure knows how to pick 'em, and I'm positive that it was intentional.

I just thought about something. What if Jacob rea...

2009-05-10T03:25:00.000-07:00

I just thought about something. What if Jacob really is just a myth? And he is a myth that was created by Locke when he visited Richard Alpert in 1954. If you remember, Richard never mentions Jacob at all when Locke and company are in 1954. However he is mentioned by the Dharma era "Hostiles."

We have already seen Locke create the legend that he is "special" and the reason that he has to leave the island and die in order to bring everyone back. It is perfectly logical that he created the legend of Jacob following this same vein.

I feel I can reconcile the problem of traveling th...

2009-05-10T01:22:00.000-07:00

I feel I can reconcile the problem of traveling through time and the need to work out the complicated movements in space also.

Imagine a stick-o-rock you can buy at the seaside. It's long, and has 'Brighton Seaside' or whatever written on the end. If you take a bite, (it tases good) it still says 'Brighton Seaside'.

You can imagine the stick-o-rock to represent an object in time, e.g. the Island. Each slice through the stick-o-rock represents a different period of time. If you wre to cut it sideways however, you would see long continuous coloured lines that make up the letters, just like an object such as the Island would be continuous in time.

To time travel you simply need to follow these continuous lines to stay in the same place.

However, a standard stick-o-rock represents an object that doesn't move in space. Now if you were to make one that was all twisty and spiraly, this would represent an object that does move in space as well as time. If you were to follow the path of the letters in the stick-o-rock 'through time' you would see that you are also moving 'through space'

Now, how do you follow these lines through time to stay in the right place? well we know large objects like the Earth make gravity wells in space, so these gravity wells through time would act like train tracks. simply follow the tracks for as long as you want to get to the right moment in time!

Some thoughts: (1) Jacob: Sam, I also feel that J...

2009-05-08T21:11:00.000-07:00

Some thoughts:

(1) Jacob:
Sam, I also feel that Jacob could very well be some kind of demonic parasite that the Island wants to destroy. The white ash could be Jacob's own version of the Dharma "sonar fence" that keeps the smoke monster out of his safety zone. The Island could be using Locke to penetrate into the circle of white ash, because the smoke monster cannot do so.

Locke's body is embalmed - the Island or something else has clearly commandeered him (but as indicated by the smoke monster's statement to Ben in the form of Alex, Locke still seems to be vulnerable). Maybe Locke's newly found purpose is to "course correct" the Island's plight from Jacob's spell/powers.

(2) Richard Alpert:
It could be that Alpert is being kept alive by Jacob, in order to ensure that everyone stays in-line with Jacob's desires. But I did find it very interesting that Alpert quickly and purposefully stood in front of Eloise when Sayid had a gun pointed at her back in 1977. It could be that Alpert was just being a gentleman. But, his "adviser" role definitely limits some of the things he can do - but he somehow circumvents those restrictions by pulling certain strings to make sure the status quo remains intact.

If Alpert is dead and being kept alive, that may explain why he cannot be a leader of the living. Locke's leadership role would not necessarily contradict this, because Locke has not really "lead" the Others - he actually seems to be democratizing the group and letting them make up their own minds. The only time I felt Alpert was truly disturbed was when he found out Locke had died.

Just some thoughts - if I am wrong - I am WAY wrong. Can't wait for next week's episode. What an amazing show.

To Anonymous' post about "time travel and space tr...

2009-05-08T14:35:00.000-07:00

To Anonymous' post about "time travel and space travel":
Movement is relative. You can say something moves only if you reference it to something else. For example, now I'm not moving in reference to the chair I sit on, but I move VERY fast in reference to Sun or Mars. Therefore you can't say where exactly would you appear in the past after a time travel, but I can't really say where would you appear and how would it work.

What if Jacob is there against the island's will? ...

2009-05-08T13:23:00.000-07:00

What if Jacob is there against the island's will? The Island obviously wants Locke to be it's leader. It's saved his life more than once, it even brought him BACK to life! It told Ben to follow Locke's every order, no matter what.

If Locke says the island told him to destroy Jacob, then that is probably what it wants to happen. What if Jacob is some sort of imposter/parasite existing against the will of the Island itself?

I was called a "Locke Apologist" by my friend when I proposed this theory, lol. I really do think though that Locke has the island's best interests in mind. The Island is obviously guiding him, not Jacob.

I have two different theories on Jacob: 1 - Jacob...

2009-05-08T12:37:00.000-07:00

I have two different theories on Jacob:
1 - Jacob is made up. Maybe first by Richard who controls everyone simply by saying "jacob said..." yada yada yada. And maybe Jacob first conned Ben into believing in Jacob and then controlled Ben that way. And maybe now Ben is also aware that he doesn't exist and they are trying to rope Lock in by decieving him next. I too thought that Lock might have meant he is going to kill the myth of Jacob - expose it all as a quack.
2 - But then again I like how someone else mentioned that maybe Lock is supposed to kill Jacob to rescue him - maybe jacob is in some sort of state of pergatory (sp?)
*On a side note, I think this episode revealed that Richard is not as all-knowing as many of us thought - he seems to know nothing about time travel, etc. in 1977, but he still appeared ageless in the 50s so like most of us I am really curious as to why he doesn't age - maybe his is just another dead representative for jacob - much like christian shepard is now.

This episode was soooo good! I can only imagine ho...

2009-05-08T12:02:00.000-07:00

This episode was soooo good! I can only imagine how the finale will turn out to be..I honestly dont even know what to expect and I want know what or who is in the darn box!
Al Trautwig thinks its Widmore! haha
check it out:
Al Trautwig Theories

How can you possibly be confused by why Jack wants...

2009-05-08T11:38:00.000-07:00

How can you possibly be confused by why Jack wants to follow Faraday's plan so bad?

Every person who has died since he was thrust into the tenuous position as leader of the Losties weighs on his soul. It's the same reason he spiraled out of control when they got off the island...because at the end of the day he couldn't get everyone off the island.

Go back and re-watch some of those episodes leading up to the explosion of the freighter. This is a man who time and time again repeated the mantra, I WILL get everyone off the island. He believed it in spite of Charlie's warning. He believed it in spite of everything...and he failed.

This is a chance not just to get the survivors off the island, but for him to erase his every mistake as leader of these people. All the lives he feels responsible for losing. All the people he feels he failed.

This is his redemption.

Desmond Hume's time traveling experience of flashi...

2009-05-08T09:39:00.000-07:00

Desmond Hume's time traveling experience of flashing between 1996 and 2004 is a bit confusing. After all, I am no physisist. However, he needed to find his "constant" so his conscience would know what time he is in. With that in mind, perhaps the flashback/flashfowards are a clue to our time traveling questions.

We have seen two different ways a time traveler travels. The first, we see the island move. An example of this is when Jin is at the wall of the temple with Rousseau. The flash occurs and it is Rousseau that dissapears. Now, Rousseau remained in that time zone, and watched Jin dissapear. It is not the island moving but the people's conscience moving thru time.

With that, I am starting to think that each "Centric" episode is to make us now wonder if that persons conscience is being transported back in time, or in the case of a flashfoward, foward in time and no one is actually "leaving" the island.

Thus, no one person's conscience is at a certain time on or off the island as anyone else. Everyone is experiencing their life at a different time than everyone else. And the idea of all of Lost is to get everyone's conscience on the same song of the record spinning on the turntable.

This makes no sense because i am not a physisist, so if anyone understand this and can clear it up better... thanks.

One thing about time travel. Time travel in essenc...

2009-05-08T08:42:00.000-07:00

One thing about time travel. Time travel in essence should involve also SPACE travel. Our location on earth is not an absolute reference. The earth is rotating around its axis and around the sun; the sun is rotating around the center of the galaxy, the galaxy is... and so on. Sending someone back in time a few hours would result in that someone appearing in the middle of empty space unless space travel was involved too...

Just a thought.

I also feel like Jacob and The Island are two tota...

2009-05-08T04:22:00.000-07:00

I also feel like Jacob and The Island are two totally separate entities.

I don't think the writers would make it so that th...

2009-05-08T04:19:00.000-07:00

I don't think the writers would make it so that the plane crash never happened. But I don't think it's because they "can't change the past." I think Desmond kind of proved that. I feel like the series will end with the destruction of the island, to be honest.

But hey, isn't Eloise a total beezy or what?

to cheesepuff: The "incident" takes place before t...

2009-05-08T04:09:00.000-07:00

to cheesepuff: The "incident" takes place before the "purge." The incident is not when all of the Dharma people die, rather, the reason they have to push a button every 108 minutes in the Swan Station. The actual incident when the Dharma folk get wiped out does not happen until 1992 (see The Man Behind the Curtain) when they release the gas in the Tempest station. What is actually interesting, is when Sawyer, Hurley, etc. find the Dharma van with 'Roger's' corpse, his nametag is on a Dharma jumpsuit bearing the Swan Station logo. I wonder if he had to push the button at one time too?

Smoke Monster Origin? Just an idea: Dharmaville be...

2009-05-08T03:34:00.000-07:00

Smoke Monster Origin?
Just an idea: Dharmaville becomes Otherton somehow, meaning the H-Bomb under the barracks does not actually destroy the barracks. Why? Does the bomb not go off? If it does, what if they are deep enough under the ground, with enough stone/concrete or whatever the tunnels are made of, to sustain the blast, thus piling up massive amounts of radiation in the tunnels, thus forming the smoke monster. After all, in all flashes, the earliest we have seen the smoke monster is 1988, AFTER 1977. Just an idea.

i think Richard Alpert is the man behind the curta...

2009-05-08T00:46:00.000-07:00

i think Richard Alpert is the man behind the curtain after all..

Lots of great comments above on a great episode. J...

2009-05-07T22:27:00.000-07:00

Lots of great comments above on a great episode. Just two opposing thoughts on the same point: IF the hydrogen bomb's detonation is the actual "incident", then how does Dr Chang leave the instructional video regarding that issue? Wouldn't he along with everyone else be vaporized, since the island isn't that big? Also, I never understood just how mechanism consisting of a series of numbers entered into a computer nullified this great magnetic pulse. Further, since there was a fail safe switch, why not just use it once and forget about punching the keys anymore //// My other personality says that if detonating the hydrogen bomb is the actual "incident", then the fact that the CIA spook who convinced Desmond to stay in the hatch because of "pollutants" and who was wearing the HASMAT-type garb outside when he found Desmond makes sense. I realize later on, the garb was a hoax, but something had to persuade him to wear it initially. Thanks for letting me share. I LOVE LOST!

quick question can anybody answer then if there is...

2009-05-07T20:40:00.000-07:00

quick question can anybody answer then if there is an accident on the island and the dahrma ppl die, how is bens dad still alive later when ben kill the rest of the dahrma? does anybody know?

"I'm going to kill Jacob." meaning...Locke is goi...

2009-05-07T18:27:00.000-07:00

"I'm going to kill Jacob."

meaning...Locke is going to kill the myth of Jacob.

This is why he had all the Others follow him. He wants them to see for themselves that they were following a false God.

That's right...I'm NotLost.