
Bram and Ilana are turning out to be more important than we originally thought. Crashing on the Island through Ajira Flight 316, the duo were originally thought to be just new redshirts who would die soon (in the style of Frogurt and Arzt). However, they turned out to be much more important than what we first thought. But the question remains -- who exactly are they, and who do they work for?

Ilana and Caesar were originally introduced as the pair of important survivors of flight 316, but this was quickly disproven by Caesar's demise at the hands of Ben's shotgun. As it turns out, he was just a red herring, "just a clueless nobody, caught up in a game he wasn't equipped to play" (as Robert K S put it). Instead, the two people we needed to look out for were Bram and Ilana, who kidnapped Frank as soon as he returned to the Island, and asked him the question, "What lies in the shadow of the statue?" which would be speculated about for the weeks on end until the finale.

Bram, who had hardly had two words up until that point, was suddenly thrust into the spotlight during a Miles flashback in "Some Like It Hoth," when he interrupted Miles' fish taco meal with a masked kidnapping, and tried to attempt him from ever boarding the
Kahana, offering him numerous answers instead. Miles, however, being his hardheaded person he is, refused to listen unless money was involved, so Bram kicked him out onto the side of the road. Before he left, though, Bram informed Miles that he was on the "winning side," which was the first time we were even aware that there
was a side. All we'd seen of Ilana before that was her abduction of Sayid, which didn't seem too out of the ordinary. I was more happy to find out the full name of the guy who Sayid shot on the golf course than to find out Ilana's past.
But then there was the large Ajira crate, and Frank's kidnapping, and I began to get interested in who these people were (well, I was interested anyway, Brad William Henke is one of my favorite actors). The community began to buzz about who these new people were: new Dharma? Ben's people? Everyone was anticipating the big reveal...

...but Ilana and Bram didn't show up for four episodes, eventually reappearing at the beginning of "The Incident," pulling up in an outrigger canoe that looked mysteriously similar to the ones Sawyer's group (pictured left) found in "The Little Prince." Will there be a shootout between the time traveling Losties and Ilana's group next year? I hope so, because to leave that unresolved would be just lazy on the part of the writers.

But just as soon as Frank wakes up he is discussed by Bram and Ilana as being a possible candidate. A candidate for what? Bram and Ilana won't say, but there are several possibilities. The most obvious of these is as a body for Jacob to move into. Jacob's nemesis has been shown to take the appearance of Locke (and, if you read my previous deconstructing post, possibly able to take over dead bodies), so it would make sense for Jacob to be able to do this as well. Perhaps Frank's candidacy is to serve as a body for Jacob to take over after his death. Of course, this has some obvious flaws, but with all the information we have now, that's the best solution I can come up with.
They then travelled to the cabin previously believed to be Jacob's, where they discovered that the ring of ash (previously noticed by Locke in "The Man Behind the Curtain") had been broken. What does this mean? Did the ash trap something (or someone), releasing it when it was broken? And who broke it?

Venturing inside, Ilana found only an illustration of the statue, and was able to determine that Jacob had not been inside that cabin for quite a while. So she burned the cabin to the ground, throwing caution to the wind when it came to starting forest fires. She probably came closer than Keamy to actually "torching the Island." As the cabin caught fire, it was one of the most sobering moments of
Lost for me. One of the most iconic images of the show had just been destroyed, and by relatively new characters at that.
And then, we got the reveal that the Ajira crate contained the real body of John Locke, revealing that the post-316 Locke was actually Jacob's nemesis.

So it appears that Ilana and Bram work for Jacob, especially after Jacob visited Ilana after a very severe incident which left her entire face bandaged. Jacob asked Ilana for a favor, and it appears that she is still carrying out that favor on the Island. What is that favor? What is her past with Jacob? To me they carried the air of perhaps ex-lovers. What do you think? Who are Ilana and Bram? Will they be part of the regular cast next season? Share your opinion in the comments section below.
It looks to me that Ilana and Richard will be bumped up to main cast next year. Christian and Widmore's contracts for season 5 also stated the possibility of them being signed as regulars for 6. Bram is a maybe in my book. Bram seems more destined to have the same status as Lapidus in season 4, important and frequent, but not main cast.
ReplyDeleteCould it have been Jacob's nemesis that was trapped in the cabin? But why would the new survivors take Locke's dead body to the cabin if they are followers of Jacob? And does that mean that Claire is with this nemesis, who possibly showed himself as Christian Shepherd in earlier episodes? Food for thought. :)
ReplyDeleteI believe Alana and Bram are Others from the future that jacob trained to come back in time and prevent his nemesis from wrecking stuff after his death.
ReplyDeleteFor one reason why did they refer to Richard Alpert as Albright? Albright is probably what Richard's name was before as he said "Jacob" made him that way and shot him back in time to the 50s to oversee the island.
I think this explains why richard doesent age, he won't age until he reaches his present time in the future right before Jacob made him that way. Then he will age.
They never called him Albright. They called him Ricardus.
ReplyDeleteReading your blog gave me an idea! What if Jacob knew he would be killed and he needed Ilana to find him a proper vessel so his "spirit" could live on after his nemesis had him killed? Perhaps this is the favor he asked her. She does seem preoccupied with the body of Locke and with finding a candidate on The Island. Is that perhaps her duty? To find a new body for Jacob, who knew he would need it soon? Hmmmm....!
ReplyDeleteI think the guys in the van were also the guys who kidnapped Locke's biological father and sent him to the island. So who DO they work for?
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, if there are two sides about to go to war (according to both Widmore and Bram) that Frank being called a "candidate" infered that maybe he would be cinsidered a good person to join Jacob's side (being that it is pretty clear that Ilana and Bram are with Jacob).
ReplyDeleteThe ring of ash around Jacob's cabin was to protect Jacob from his enemy/ the Smoke Monster, which I believe are one in the same. The ring was broken long ago, by some one else, which led Jacob to move to the statue. Once 815 crashed, Jacob's nemesis (Smoke Monster) moved in, using Christian Shepard's body. Christian, as well as Richard (sent by "Flocke") manipulated John Locke to leave the island and die so the Smoke Monster could use his body to convience Ben to kill Jacob.
ReplyDeleteI believe the loophole to kill Jacob is either only the leader or a banished leader can kill Jacob. Ben would still be the leader because John Locke died, and the island cannot be without the leader.
Furthermore, I think that "He who will save us all" is not refering to Jacob, rather Jack. The flash will bring the '77-ers back to 2007 in the shadow of the statue. "They're coming" refers to the group who Jacob selected (touched in the flashback) to save the island.
Can I just say, arbitrarily, that I am sick and tired of imbecilic toadies throwing out some half-baked notion that A is B's "constant." For example, on Richard Alpert's "theories" page, one theory is that, indeed, Richard is the Island's constant. I saw that, and that was the breaking point for me.
ReplyDeletePlease move on beyond the bloody term "constant." It's not the flubbing grail and telos of the series. I get the sensation that the ubiquity of the word on these websites owes its existence to the fact that the people propagating the theory don't really understand what that whole bit was about, how it's played itself out.
Think about this instead: if Jacob made Richard immortal and Jacob really is dead and gone (since "dark times" are coming to the island) at least temporarily, does that mean that Richard is no longer going to not age. If Jacob's death opens up room for chaos on the island, as I expect to be the case, then wouldn't that chain of causation imply the possibility that Alpert's circumstances may, too, be altered?
If so, I expect he'll really be talkative about who, what, where, and whatnot toward the Losties. Since he'll pretty much be thrown into their crew.
Just as soon as Bram gets shot in Episode 2...
I think Jacob healed Ilana's face when he touched her, like he brought Locke back to life after his fall. She doesn't have any scars or anything, and I can't see having your whole face bandaged up without it being serious.
ReplyDeleteMaybe that was obvious but a couple of my friends didn't think so...
I think they are from Jacob's "organization". Apparently, and given the information we've been getting from the new ARG, and also from the 'candidate' line in the finale, there seems to be a full blown organization apparently run by Jacob, presumably to keep the Island safe.
ReplyDeleteIf I had to take a guess, I'd say that everybody that makes it into the organization becomes ageless. That would explain Richard, and also the apparent 'we've been friends forever' vibe we got from Illana and Jacob in that hospital scene...
DId anyone ever stoped to think how the hell Jacob and the nemesis came to the island? Why would two men be alone in the island for more than a thousand years? Would they be alone? Why couldn't richard and ilana be with them from the begining? These characteres are special, we know that, maybe Ilana and jacob were lovers in the past. The loophole, i belive it's not decided by who is lider or not, but if it's out of the original tribe in the island or not.
ReplyDeleteAnd what if we are seeing this wrong? What if the richard is an ally of jacob with this non-ageing special power and the black smoke is an ally of the nemesis.
By the way, i'm not familiar with the expression red herring, what does that means?
A lot of questions and lot of answers we hope solved in the 6.
Another thing, can lapidus be a vessel or an ally?
ReplyDeleteHow did she knew how to get "back" on the island? If she is a friend of jacob, he should tell her a much easier way to arrive on the island instead of a plane crash. If she was forced to come on the plane to get back on the island, maybe it's because she was once on the island and she couldn't go back by other means. If that is right, i can't understand why Charlotte could go back by beeing on the crew of Kahana.
In the previous coment, when i say she I mean Ilana.
ReplyDeleteDavid X - all your speculations seem wrong and very unimportant
ReplyDelete"DId anyone ever stoped to think how the hell Jacob and the nemesis came to the island? Why would two men be alone in the island for more than a thousand years? Would they be alone?"I wouldn't call them men. I'd say they are more along the lines of what one might consider Angels and Demons, especially considering their black/white motif, and abilities. So asking "how did they get there, and why are they there (alone)" is like asking "How did God come into existence, and why is He/She where He/She is, while we're here?" You're just going to have to wait and see.
ReplyDelete"Why couldn't richard and ilana be with them from the begining? These characteres are special, we know that, maybe Ilana and jacob were lovers in the past."Because they weren't THERE at the beginning (that we know of). It's as simple as that.
"And what if we are seeing this wrong? What if the richard is an ally of jacob with this non-ageing special power and the black smoke is an ally of the nemesis."I hate to tell you this--But EVERYONE sees it like that. So what do you mean by "What if we are seeing this wrong?"
"i'm not familiar with the expression red herring, what does that means?"A Red Herring is something placed into a story to purposely mislead the viewer from making the proper conclusion about something--so that the truth is more of a surprise.
"can lapidus be a vessel or an ally?"Nobody knows. We'll find out in season 6 what the deal with Lapidus is.
"How did [Ilana] knew how to get "back" on the island? If she is a friend of jacob, he should tell her a much easier way to arrive on the island instead of a plane crash. If she was forced to come on the plane to get back on the island, maybe it's because she was once on the island and she couldn't go back by other means. If that is right, i can't understand why Charlotte could go back by beeing on the crew of Kahana."I doubt there is an easier way to get back to the island. Just because someone was on the Island before, doesn't mean if they leave they can't get back. And the reason Charlotte and the Kahana could get back so easily is because the Island became "visible" to the outside world when Desmond turned the key in the Swan way back when. The Kahana had bearings and proper instructions to make it easily to the island. Once Ben turned the wheel, that would have become impossible to do again.
Red Herring - great definition on wikipedia:
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"Furthermore, I think that "He who will save us all" is not refering to Jacob, rather Jack. The flash will bring the '77-ers back to 2007 in the shadow of the statue. "They're coming" refers to the group who Jacob selected (touched in the flashback) to save the island".
ReplyDeleteTHIS is very interesting!
I think that the point of Jacob making contact with all the losties was to establish them as possible future 'hosts' - he may have only a finite amount of time that he can spend in one incarnation.
ReplyDeleteI also think that the Island's endless 'manipulation' of John Locke affirmed him over the others as the chosen 'candidate'.
Unfortunately for Jacob, 'the other fella nicked him', so to speak! This may be linked to Locke's early S1 encounter with the smoke monster/nemesis - of which we never saw the full encounter. In fact, i'll bet you some serious coin that we get an s6 flashback to this scene and what actually happened to Locke on that day.
"This may be linked to Locke's early S1 encounter with the smoke monster/nemesis - of which we never saw the full encounter. In fact, i'll bet you some serious coin that we get an s6 flashback to this scene and what actually happened to Locke on that day."
ReplyDeleteWhat I think happened is that a tiny bit of the monster/nemesis infiltrated Locke and gave him his "connection" to the island, so we really haven't seen the TRUE John Locke since that event.
A little off topic, but recently Damon hinted at the possibility that Sun could be more important than we thought. I believe he's referring to her staying with the 316ers and the as of yet unknown reason for that.
ReplyDeleteI just wanted to know what others think about this. Especially in relation to this candidacy thrown into the plot and the new vacancy for leader of The Others.
@spike she called richard ricardo, spanish name. He must've come from the black rock (which we saw at the start of the finale). I'll come back and post more tomorrow. Tis late this eve
ReplyDeleteTristan said...
ReplyDelete@spike she called richard ricardo, spanish name. He must've come from the black rock (which we saw at the start of the finale). I'll come back and post more tomorrow. Tis late this eve
No, she called him RICARDUS, and I think he came from the Black Rock too!
If Jacob is looking for a "vessel" for his soul, he could use (the real) Locke's body. That would set up a season 6 confrontation between the two Lockes!
ReplyDeleteHAHAHA.... I think I've figured it out!!!
ReplyDeleteIlana is Kate. After some accident she got a plastic surgery.
Jacob is Jack! Jack died and for some reason became immortal. Jack then having died can take over bodies just like his nemesis. He eventually took over some guy's body (who is the Jacob ben killed.)
Jacob nemesis is probably Sawyer.
I expect Sun to play a key and unexpected role.
ReplyDeleteShe cut some deal with Widmore. True, she held off on killing Ben because he convinced her that he could get her to Jin. But that doesn't mean she is no longer playing on Widmore's team. Who knows what he told her or promised her.
And, too, she now owns Paik and has access to massive wealth and who knows what else.
OMG THIS SHOW DRIVES ME NUTS! but I can't stop watching it. I have no idea what the heck is going on, and neither does anyone on these websites but that doesn't stop us from speculating, and guessing, and tuning in next week. Who would have thought a show that NEVER goes anywhere would be such a hit?! I'm still back at season one with Walt having special abilities. Sooooooo many unanswered questions and pointless 'revelations'. will we ever get any sort of answers?
ReplyDeleteI think that maybe they were lovers, but is Christian pro Jacob?
ReplyDeletere: "He who will save us all" being Jack. Yes, it is interesting to think about, but Jack does not "lay in the shadow of the statue"
ReplyDeleteUnless Jacob becomes Jack in some way.
ReplyDeleteThink Memento. The beginning was the end and the end brings us to the beginning.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I just came to thinking Jacob had interactions with seven characters. They may be the seven chosen one to save whatever that needs to be saved. Each character had a distinct special trait. Now, are they in any conjunction to the 7 cardinal virtues or 7 deadly sins.
Having said that, all characters were approached by Jacob in pre-oceanic6 timeline-wise, except for Hurley. Hurley was approached by Jacob in 2008. Since Jacob got thrown into the fire in 2007, Jacob couldn't have died. And since Hurley was last one approached by Jacob, could he be Jacob's counter to his nemesis' loophole?
Having said that, all characters were approached by Jacob in pre-oceanic6 timeline-wise, except for Hurley. Hurley was approached by Jacob in 2008. Since Jacob got thrown into the fire in 2007, Jacob couldn't have died. And since Hurley was last one approached by Jacob, could he be Jacob's counter to his nemesis' loophole?
ReplyDeleteSorry, but your information is incorrect. Jacob got thrown into the fire AFTER he visited Hurley.
Order of events:
1-Jacob visits Hurley and tells him to Hop an Ajira flight back to the Island.
2-Hurley, along with Ben and co. return to the island.
3-Hurley gets thrown back in time with the others, and Ben stays in the present with the rest.
4-Ben stabs Jacob, and Nemesis push-kicks him into the fire.
Hurley's encounter with Jacob was right before they went back to the island in 2008.
ReplyDeleteAs Hurley's crew got time-shifted to the 50's, Ilana's crew got time-shifted back one year to 2007.
I'm sorry... what makes you think this?
ReplyDeleteThis is the first time I've heard about it.
Reference please?
I would like to point out that when Richard sees "Locke" when he returns to the Island he mentions that it's been three years since he last saw him.
ReplyDeleteThat's the same amount of time that Sawyer's gang was stuck back in time in Dharmaville before they see the Ajira folk.
So if THAT all lines up...
Since Ilana was on the same flight as Locke's body, Sun, Ben, and Lapidus, and none of them seem to have time shifted, I'm not sure where/how you are drawing this conclusion.
food for thought..
ReplyDeleteBram and Ilana refer to Richard by the name Ricardos .. cud it be that Ricardos is one of the people aboard the black rock???
cud jacob have brought him to be his deputy on the island making him ageless like himself?
also note that richard is never leader of the others.
is there a rule that states thate the leader must always leave the island at one time or the other?
is Jacob and nemesis a play on zoroastrian figures Ahura Mazda and Angra Manyu
john said... (lazy to log in sorry)
ReplyDeletehttp://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Jacob
main text describes how jacob got stabbed by ben in 2007
off the island (last paragraph) says how jacob approached hurley in january 2008.
i just found that out not too long ago.
I present the theory that Jacob and Jacob’s nemesis are the Egyptian deity Amen Ra and that the Smoke Monster is the Egyptian deity Osiris. The following is my supporting data. Amen Ra is a dual deity devised to merge the worship of Amen with the older solar cult of Ra. By combining the two, the deities are said to dwell within one another. We have seen that Jacob and Jacob’s nemesis are equals and have been on the Island for a long time. Apollo (Sun god of the Greeks) candy bars have been seen throughout the series. We also have heard Jacob’s nemesis say to Jacob that he wants to kill Jacob and will find a loophole in order to accomplish this. Osiris was the god of the dead as well as the eternal afterlife. He was considered ruler, protector and overall judge of the dead. He ruled the world of men, while his brother Ra ruled the skies. We have seen the smoke Monster judge and then kill numerous people on the Island. We have seen the Smoke Monster emerging from tunnels under the Island and dragging people below the ground.
ReplyDeleteThis would result in a triad ruling the events on the Island. We have seen Jacob physically “tag” people for some purpose by touching them or handing them an object. The Smoke Monster also has selectively killed certain individuals on the Island while allowing others who are just as guilty, in my opinion, live on. I expect to see in LOST Season Six Jacob’s nemesis select his group.
Whenever any of the hostiles is killed, the other hostiles demand the return of the dead bodies. The last thing Ben did for Alex was to “say goodbye to his daughter”. I suspect he did something to preserve her remains. Perhaps he carried her body to the temple tunnel that was underneath the house in the Barracks.
All i know is that the last season will be focus heavily about Jack and his persona. The show beginning on Jack's POV tells me it carries a lot of the resolve. Also, remember how Vincent keeps looking at Jack after the crash? Vincent may have been the first ones possessed by Evil Jacob. Maybe Jack opening his eyes is the personification of Jacob.
ReplyDeleteJohn - I'm sorry, but that article doesn't cut it for me. 2007 (or 2008) could easily be a typo of the other, as the # keys are right next to each other.
ReplyDeleteLostpedia is a great resource, but it isn't ALWAYS correct, and it's isn't ALWAYS 100% error-free.
To convince me of what you're saying (not that you are, or care to) someone would need to provide me with the actual episode reference(s)--such as the years being stated in show--and/or how the conclusion was reached that the year that is stated is the correct year it happened.
*shrug*
I think I may actually post this on the forum as a challenge, because I'm pretty detail-oriented, and if I somehow missed something this big, I'd like to know what other people think of it.
Okay, I posted it as a question so everyone could join in on the forum. If you want to keep up on it:
ReplyDeletehttp://forum.lostpedia.com/challenge-answer-did-jacob-visit-t37521.html
john said...
ReplyDeleteif it was an err, i'm trying to figure out if it was 2007 or 2008. almost everything i can find, even the abc website, leads to say they are at 2007.
thanks for posting the question.
Casey,
ReplyDeleteAbout the time issue, I believe there are some little errors. When flight 316 goes back to the island, it should be very early 2008. When Locke left the island and met Widmore in Tunisia, the passport given to Locke was dated - I believe, because this is from memory - Dec. 12, 2007. After that, Locke goes to visit the Oceanic 6, gets killed, a few days pass before a funeral, at least a couple of days pass before flight 316, etc.
When Jack sees Ben in the funeral home at the end of Season 4, he tells Ben that he had seen Locke about a month earlier. So, it should already be January 2008, which puts the return exactly three years after the rescue of the Oceanic 6, which should have occured in January 2005.
The problem comes from the fact that the writers in the title cards say that 30 years separates 1977 from the "present" of the island, the scenes with Jacob's nemesis as Locke and Bram and Ilana and Ben. You'll notice that group never says "2007." Of course, it could be that 30 and a half years separate the time periods, so that it could be 1977 in Dharmaville and 2008 when Jacob is stabbed by Ben.
Either way, yes Jacob saw Hurley before he gets on flight 316.
We must remember that the writers make errors.
As for why Sun didn't return in time, the cynical part of me says that was to create dramatic tension. It was to keep her from being reunited with Jin. Is there a good reason that the writers have concocted? Who knows. I did forget about her deal with Widmore.
It's very hard to speculate on what will happen next year. A lot of the observations and theories seem good, but the writers will throw us for a few loops, no matter how hard we try.
I don't envy the writers, by the way. They have to wrap up the show, try to answer some of the bigger questions (I'm guessing we'll never know the answers to some smaller unresolved issues, so we'll keep watching the old episodes after the whole show is done, trying to guess the missing pieces), and reveal the larger issues of the importance of the island, the good vs. evil/white vs. black/free will vs. predestination stuff, etc. Can that really be done in 17 hours or so? It can, but they will have to cut out on the filler that they place in so many episodes and get down to business.
I need to do some more research on Jack, though I am tired of him and prefer Sawyer. Still, Jack is the big prince in the royal LOST family of Christian, Jack, Claire and The Little Prince Aaron. Remember Jack's tattoo says, "he walks among them but is not one of them." (That was revealed in the episode called "Stranger in a Strange Land.") No theory yet, but it all points to something. Along with the whole show opening with Jack's eye. And remember that in the season 4 teaser mobisode "So It Begins" Christian was standing in the jungle when the plane crashed and told Vincent to go wake his son because "he has work to do."
ReplyDeleteWhat if the good versus evil situation is supposed to be continued by the next generation of kids? That's why the Others used to collect kids - to find candidates.
ReplyDeleteSun's son might be a candidate, as well as Claire's son and Walter.
BTW, we never learned how Claire died, or even know if she really died.
This is Sobek, the benefical and egyptian crocdile God (http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobek). It looks a lot like the Statue...
ReplyDeleteWith just 17 episodes left to tie all the mysteries together and conclude the series with its best finale episode the creators and writers of LOST have their work cut out for them. We, the loyal, detail-loving fans of LOST, know that not every mystery will be explained and not every loose end will be tied up, but there are certain mysteries I feel we are entitled to learn the answer. These are:
ReplyDelete1. What is the Island? Is it Atlantis? Is it the playground of two/three demi-gods? Where did it come from?
2. Who really are Jacob and Jacob’s nemesis?
3. Who/what is the Smoke Monster? Is it an entity or just a servant called to do some one’s bidding?
4. Who is Richard and what is his back story?
5. Who are the Others that defend to the death the Island?
6. What happened to the crew of the Black Rock?
7. Why do the Others allow the Dharma Initiative to build Dharmaville and live there as well as all those stations?
8. Do we see what happened in Dharmaville between the Incident in 1977 and the Purge in 1992?
9. What is the true relationship of Eloise Hawking to Whitmore? Is she trying to help Whitmore or the Island?
10. In the Season Six finale, will our favorite survivor’s (Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley, Sayid) finally get off the Island and return to LA/Iran to live their lives in a redeemed, fulfilling manner?
Please present any theories you may have to answer the mysteries. I hope the writers of LOST follow along on this blog. Maybe we ,the fans, can influence the future scripts of the show. We can show that free-will wins out over destiny!
Has anyone yet touched on the fact that John Locke is being taken back to the island on flight 316. I can't help but see the direct connection to John 3:16, the biblical reference.
ReplyDelete"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life".
Now I know the writers, to this point, haven't been preachy or used slot of other bible references, but I just can't help but see the extreme coincidence in one of the most widely known biblical passages ever.
With Jacob and his nemesis obviosly being god-like in many ways, the casting out of Jacobs nemesis (possibly the ring of ash) as well as many other characters off the heavenly island (Widmore for example) only to see the final battle yet to come in season 6.
I know it's a stretch, but one that seems very overwhelming to me with the whole John 3:16 reference. Just my two cents.
john said ...
ReplyDeletewhen thinking of 3:16, think of the most significant father/son tandem. Yes, christian/jack. Then try to associate it with the "So it begins" episode when christian told vincent his son has work to do.
i just have a great feeling that season 6 is jack's realization of his importance to this entire thing. He is jacob's last hope. And it might come down to how he counts to five and swallow his fear.
i dont know if anyone has said this....
ReplyDeletebut i think its the episode "namaste" that they show events in dharma times and events on hydra island. it was confirmed that the losties were (warped?) to 1977 while some werent. as it is flashing between the two stories it says "30 years earlier"
1977+30 years = 2007. but im not sure if the writers were being exact, or doing a ballpark estimate.